I said that I had to cover the aftermath of the war. This was a key question.
The president said he wanted to make sure that his acknowledgment that no weapons of mass destruction
had been found so far would not be published in
The Washington Post
until the book was released. “In other
words, I’m not going to read a headline, ‘Bush Says No Weapons.’ ”
I promised that he would not, though less than two months later he would effectively make that
acknowledgment, saying on February 8, 2004, on NBC’s
Meet the Press,
“I expected there to be stockpiles of
weapons” and “We thought he had weapons.”
Did he feel there was any miscalculation about how long it would take to stabilize and pacify Iraq after the
war?
“No,” he said, “I think I was pretty well prepared for a pretty long haul.” Many positive things have
occurred, he said. He noted that the Iraqi oil fields had been successfully protected, mass hunger avoided, and a
new currency introduced, which was itself “an impressive feat,” he said. “The major issues that we’d thought
we’d be confronted with just didn’t happen.”
The violence, he said, was mostly in about 5 to 10 percent of Iraq. “It’s dangerous because there are still
enough thugs and assassins there that can do you in…. But it’s still tough. There’s still loss of life.” He said he
was optimistic about the outlook. “It’s just a matter of time. It’s a matter of a society evolving. It’s a matter of a
sovereignty issue evolving”—when the government would be turned over to the Iraqi people. He said the
liberation was “changing a mentality.” Iraqis would soon “be on the front line of the police work” and would be
the ones to go after the assassins, along with Iraqi troops. He complained that some of the positive things in Iraq
did not get coverage in the American media.
“What matters is the emergence of a free society where people realize their lives are better off. And where
they work through their traumas so they can seize the moment.” Summarizing at the end of our first interview,
he said of the war and the aftermath, “It is the story of the 21st century.”
He continued about his own brief visit to Iraq two weeks earlier. “And when I went there in Thanksgiving,
I went to thank the troops, but I also went to say to the Iraqi people, seize the moment, this is your country.”
During a successful transition to self-government, the key would be minority rights for those groups and tribes
that were not Shiites and “a clear understanding that vengeance and jealousy won’t rule the day.”
The president said he believed the record would show that he, Rumsfeld, Franks and the other military
eople developed a war plan that carefully targeted Saddam, the Baathist leadership and inner circle, and their
means to retain power. The war was precisely directed at them and that apparatus—military, security service,
secret police. As much as possible average Iraqis were spared. It would be a blueprint of historical significance
that, he said, “will enable other leaders, if they feel like they have to go to war, to spare innocent citizens and
their lives.”
Telling that story was one of the chief reasons the president said he had agreed to be interviewed in depth
about the war, and why he wanted Rumsfeld and others in the administration to answer my questions. “But the
news of this, in my judgment, the big news out of this isn’t how George W. makes decisions,” he said. “To me
the big news is America has changed how you fight and win war, and therefore makes it easier to keep the
eace in the long run. And that’s the historical significance of this book as far as I’m concerned.”
The president reminded me that back in his private office he keeps a brick brought back by the Special
Forces unit that had conducted the first U.S. military raid into Afghanistan after 9/11. It was from the compound
of Taliban leader Mullah Omar. It was a reminder, he said, that when he put boots on the ground and ordered
direct ground engagement, U.S. military personnel would die. It was not the antiseptic war of shooting cruise
missiles that
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